If you’ve been listening to Todd McFarlane talk about his long-suffering Spawn reboot starring Jamie Foxx and Jeremy Renner, you know that it isn’t going to be a bright and happy, MCU-style film. In a new quote the Image Comics Co-Founder is describing a film so dark that it will give Zack Snyder’s DCEU films a run for their money. Here’s what he told Nerdist about his vision for the upcoming film:

“There’s no joy. There’s gonna be no fun lines in it, and it’s just gonna be this dark, ugly two hours worth of movie, which is essentially what a lot of supernatural/horror movies are anyway. There’s not a lot of funny in them. And that seems to be a weird hurdle for a lot of people in this city to get over because they sort of go into a superhero/Avengers default all the time.”

We loved the dark feel of the early Spawn comic books and the HBO series. The question is whether a movie that is being marketed as having no joy is going to bring in enough viewers to break even.