Some cool stuff has come from JJ Abram’s interview with Empire about the upcoming Star Wars The Force Awakens. First up, we now know that Andy Serkis will be playing Supreme Leader Snoke, a “Powerful figure on the Dark Side of The Force.”

This led to the revelation that Adam Driver’s Kylo Ren is not actually Sith, but that he works under Snoke.

“That all came out of conversations about what would have happened if the Nazis all went to Argentina but then started working together again? What could be born of that? Could The First Order exist as a group that actually admired The Empire? Could the work of The Empire be seen as unfulfilled? And could Vader be a martyr? Could there be a need to see through what didn’t get done?”

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